EVERYONE READ NOW !!!!!!!

[Joxer]

LOL

anyway I think its time we got replys from everyone about this idea of micks, it needs to be sorted.

i know some of you say if everyone goes ill follow but I'd like a certain yes or no here, nothing personal its just we need to get this sorted as many of you know this aint gonna get any better if nothing is said

So here is your chance say what ever you like about this right here and we will decided what the future holds

Thank you for your time

[Fisco]

As my original post on Micks thread said.......

I'm staying here until the guild dies.

In fact, if nobody wants to stay then I'll stump up the funds and 'buy' the guild to keep it going until Gens comes back.

My tuppence worth.

[Barinov]

<<preachy old man speech begins>>

I will be staying in the Guild with Mark, and I'll endeavour to explain why.

I've been dreading this type of thread for some time, yet I knew it was inevitable. Perversely, I am almost relieved to get it out and said.

In some ways, there is a parallel to the demise of Supreme. We are all wondering when Gens will be back, as indeed we were with Kenny. But to me, that is where the similarity ends. With Supreme, it was very much Kenny's guild. Although Knifer was at the helm, he was strangled by the thought that he couldn't do anything Kenny may not like or agree with. As such, our creativity was stifled, and in the end, we sort of petered out, many of us bailing when given the chance to join Rebirth.

Well, I was one of those who bailed, and it was a mistake on my part. Rebirth was a mighty guild, so strong in fact that I immediately felt intimidated and insignificant. This is not to say that they were unfriendly, far from it, I still speak to Sephron now when I see him. And the folk in Friends are lovely people, Gand and Cippy always say hello when I run into them and are kind and generous.

Yet do I say a similar situation would arise if we joined Friends. It would not be a merger, it would be an absorption. The uniqueness that is Athanatus would be diminished, possibly eroded away completely. The difference between Supreme and Athanatus is that Gens always encouraged us to introduce ideas and trusted us to make decisions in absentia. The whole idea of a council, every member of which is 100% trustworthy, shows what faith he put in us.

I distinctly remember how relieved I was to leave Rebirth and join Athanatus. It felt like I had come "home". It is clear that the guild means a lot to its members, both current and former. This forum is still visited by Keifos, Skullo and Lara, and even Lord Cyric who has given up the game completely.

There is no doubt we are going through a bad patch at the moment. Many times I have logged on and found noone at home. I can totally understand why Bel left. We forced the poor bugger to come back, and then were never there to talk to him ! And as Jox pointed out, some of the faster levellers have pulled streets ahead of the crafters and slower players, and so may feel they have nobody left to hunt with of a similar level.

For me, though, all I want to do is log on, play, and talk to my friends. I do not give a monkey's about how strong we are in battle, our strength lies in our friendship. Times change, and our real life circumstances with them. Some of our members are unable to play due to their current circumstances, but that may not always be the case.

To conclude, I will remain in Athanatus with Mark, and I most sincerely hope that the rest of you will remain with us too, as it that which makes us great in my mind.

<<preachy old man speech concludes>>

[Joxer]

as someone once said don't ask of other people what you won't do yourself so her goes

I started this post because I felt the need as Leader (although temp) I needed to know what you are thinking,I am not saying Athanatus is gonna die because I am not gonna quit as leader. As Bar said he was relieved to be outting his views this was the reason I started the topic, I needed to know how ppl feel so I can react as the leader and help those who need it.

[bodge270]

its taken me a while to decide what to post here so here goes :-

A few months ago I said in Guild chat that we had to make a few hard choices we either stick with what we had, a chat room or we try and build the guild through recruitment and grow.

1st problem : people now don't chat because of lack of playing or to busy stating.

2nd problem : we have because of the bond grown over the past 2 years made it basically impossable for people to fit in to the guild because we don't let them.

So now the difficult bit soma without this guild after 18 months/ 2 years is boring FACT - but the guild adds anthoer element to the game.

BUT being in the guild takes away other elements of soma ie warring, hunts etc and therfore we can't keep everyone happy.

So i'm sitting on the fence ;D, I can see arguments for both a merger and staying as we are (which has been made more difficult by bar;s and marks posts).

So how do we decide this guild's future, not in the forum but why this guild was set up by active members having their say by arranging sometime over the weekend, having an open discussion in guild chat and decide the outcome of the guild then.

[Beelzebull]

Hi people,

First of all , thank you for understand Bar... As you all know my charactor is very lively and to be honest after leaving and joining back i might say that 80% of the time i was always logged alone in game.

I do totally understand that this issue is due to my wierd logging times but really i ended in a state that I could basicly start a guild myself and just be in it alone.

It was not easy to take the decision to leave and i have discused it with Micky too (since the bugger was sometime logged on with me).

I wish it could be as it was before but I cannot log during the day times. If i could log i would personally ask you guys for a rank in the guild and try to make it become bigger but i do not have the time.

My Soma experience is now very limited to what it was before. I guess you all noticed that I would have loved to lead a guild. I am sure you all agree that I was always there to create events, games and stuff for everyone to do. Now i cannot dedicate that much time to the game.

As an end line, I joined Friends guild cause Gand , Cippalippa and Bibbola where the only people I really felt at home with in Rebirth. They are great and are basically always on (Cippalippa is a power leveler monster, she was 10 lvl below me in RB and now at 100% evad a shanis lol)

I had a chat with Gand and they would welcome you all there. Yes it is true though, it would be more an absorption then a merge.

To be honest even if i really miss the bugger (i knew him 2years + now) i do not think Gens will be back to Soma (GENS IF YOU READ THIS PM ME MATE JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU)

I do not know where and how to end this post... I miss the old days in Soma, but i just cannot dedicate the time i used. I am usually on after 10:30 gmt guys, if needed just pm me.

[skullo]

Firstly lo all hope every 1 is OK!

As others i had other comitments and i also grew bored, and when it i desided to come back my soddin account ran out and i cant afford to pay

I personally wouldnt leave athanatus, it is the only guild i have been in and it is where my soma family is!

I understand why ppl leave and why ppl stay, but i dont think i could get used to all the new ppl and the different guild rules and new leaders.

I find it hard to respect ne 1 i dont really know, and some of u know i get a bit miffed if im ordered to do things. But i fully respect the leaders/council and members of athanatus.

Ne way my 2 pence worth,

Hope to return some day, till then live long and prosper(lol lines from star trek)

Skullo